Long Memory, The

Tower Bridge.

Now. No prizes, "stately home".

A large paved area, no prizes, but it might help with identification of something

Doddsy confirms the location as Shad Thames at the junction with junction with Horselydown Lane, Southwark, SE1. James Cochrane replaces the Google Image with one of his own. (RL)

Says Shad Thames, but is it real or a set? Barry Fantoni advises that it's real . . . .

. . . . which is confirmed by Doddsy. James Cochrane replaces the Google shot with one of his own. (RL)

Could this be one of the Thames defence forts near Gravesend? No, it's a series of barges drawn up on the mud flats which also had a film made about them, centred on Gravesend. Alastair says "I believe the location is the Swale Estuary between Conyer and Oare. I walk my dog here. I have included an map reference: Postcode district: ME9 9, Grid ref: TQ966654, Lat: 51:21:16N (51.35448), Lon: 0:49:20E (0.82227). I think the actual shot is taken at the junction of the two paths which can be seen on Google Earth. A number of the old barge ribs still lie in the mud to this day."

Wow, still there and slowly rotting. Skeletal remains found and photographed by John Mason. Wonderful stuff. Stangate Creek, Iwade. R D Marchant.

A repeat of lm004 to show the later information. (RL) ... And there's more at the end. (SJ)

Going back to the above shot. Graham Davies suggests the map coordinates are wrong, which may re-open the debate. He provides 51.389987, 0.716964. Here in the meantime is a Google shot on the river Medway, northwest of Iwade. SJ

John Carwardine identifies this as Mount Avenue, Ealing, London W5 looking east at the junction with Helena Road which is to the right.

Antony Blair replaces RL's Google image and confirms that this is Mount Avenue in Ealing with Daver Court to the left.

John Owens advises that this is Mount Avenue in Ealing and that the location appears in 'The Magnet'.

A good view of the house by Antony which replaces an earlier Google image.

Mount Avenue, Ealing. Some serious sleuthing here by John Owens.

The same house in Mount Avenue - again the trees obscure part of the house. John Owens.

Mount Road, Ealing W5 located by John Owens. John Carwardine adds that the large house in the background was demolished to make way for the new houses in the late 60s/early 70s. The grounds were large enough to create the whole close named Park Gate.

Antony Blair provides this comparison taken outside Devon Cottage which replaces John Owens' Google view.

Shad Thames

Now. Yes indeed - Shad Thames. Mark Thomas. Thank you.

Steps. Perhaps Shad Thames.

Now. Maggie Blake's Cause(way), off Shad Thames. Mark.really well spotted.

Queen Street, Gravesend. Location, David Pink, thank you.

Now. Thanks again to John Love but sorry, no definitive features.

Queen Street again, looking towards the Thames, now a car park... See the note on capture 21 for the café to the left of the still.

Queen Street, with St Andrew's Church.

Now. St. Andrew's Church. Harry Witherspoon.

Queen Street, with St Andrew's Church

Now. The same angle as our still but the trees have grown.

Gravesend, a distinctive church in the background. Looking over Bank Street, from Crooked Lane, with St George's Church in the background. Many thanks to John Love for his long memory.

Now. With St.George's Church steeple in the background, in the graveyard of which Pocahontas sleeps. Thank you Harry.

Crooked Lane, now demolished, but the Thames still flows. John Love again... See the note on capture 21 for the café in the middle of the still.

Now. The site, a car park adjacent to the covered market. But really nothing architecturally identifiable.

St Andrew's church over on the right side.

Now. And there it is. Thanks Harry.

The Terrace, from Queen Street, Gravesend.

Now. Perserverance pays off. Thanks to John Love for spotting this one, The Terrace with the City of London pub on the right in the background.

Queen Street from the grassy area in front of St Andrew's church.

Steadman's shop, Crooked Lane, Gravesend - John Love... The shop frontage says "J. A. Austin" and its address was 49 Queen Street. This scene had to be reshot because a mother holding her baby was visible in an upstairs window. John Woodward lived there from 1952 to 1964 and was that baby. JA Austin was his grandfather and his grandmother served the actors and crew with tea and snacks from the café. What a great story: thank you. (SJ)

Looking up Queen Street in Gravesend. I was initially convinced by the identification with 21 Queen Street, especially given the outline of the original door and the 'nib' in the brickwork where the steps would have been. However, I now think this identification unlikely, as the building concerned is right next to (separated by an alley) a large pub formerly called The Town Arms and now called Blake's. Steve Doeer. Cont. lm025.

Queen Street again.

Dear old St Andy's again.

Now. St. Andrews Church. Mark James, thanks, well done.

Shoe shop at the junction of Bank Street and Queen Street. (see pic 18) John Love.

Queen Street.

Queen Street, Gravesend, Kent. But, from lm020 Steve says...and which is clearly not there in this film still.

Now.

The Terrace, Gravesend. See pic lm017.

Queen Street again. Is that grating in the shopfront still there.

Those steps on the right? The Now Images 28 & 28a are incorrect, the houses shown are further up the road, out of sight. The film still shows a policeman standing up on the right, outside the 'Four Winds' antique shop, long gone. Claims John Mason THe white building on the left was the George Inn, says Keith Barrett. Whereas Steve Doeer suggests.... Looking at an OS map, a 1:500 map from 1866 (nearly 100 years earlier than the film!), I think an alternative candidate is a house halfway between Swan Yard and Bank Street, which also has steps indicated on the 1966 map, and is on the end of a block of five as described in one of your titles. No 41 Queen Street.

Now. This is Queen Street in Gravesend and it was number 49 and 50 but is now 20 and 21. The "Old Pickle Lady" used to live nearby and some of the interior shots in the film were said to have been taken in her front room. Good stuff Harry.

Those steps on the right?> The house with the 3 steps did belong to Mrs Merchant, and put up for the night in the nearbye 'Clarendon Hotel'. Her house was the end of a row of 5, with 2 houses & a shop to the right of her laying back 2 feet. They were demolished many years ago. John Mason.

Now. This is the front door which had the three steps coming down into the street. The "fanlight" above the widened front door shows the height of the original door and the nib in the brickwork below the orange notice shows where the steps would have commenced. At the time of filming the house was owned by a Mrs. Merchant who was paid £10 for the use of her steps.

It appears that John Mason has previously expressed the view that 028n and 028an are incorrect. He now adds that the house John Mills is walking down the three steps was No. 41, long demolished, those pictures show No. 21, still there but never having steps. The policeman has his back to No. 31 the "Four Winds" antique shop. (RL)

A view courtesy of Google, clearly shows The George Inn on the left (identified previously by Keith Barrett) with its, three first and second floor windows The first building on the right hand side painted cream is what is now "Blakes", at the time of the filming it was the "Town Arms" For me this represents the true "NOW", make your own choice. (RL)

1930's houses backing on to the Thames. Gravesend, Northfleet, Granby Road. The terrace of houses was at the bottom of Granby Road Northfleet, now long gone. The interior shots with John McCullum and Thora Hird were filmed in my wife's grandmother's house. John Butler.

Now. Thanks to John Love for the picture, but nothing definitive so no prizes.

The "Lord Nelson" was in Chalk at on the Gravesend Road opposite the junction with Lower Higham Road. However it no longer stands as there is a community centre there. The area is not recognisable as that in the photo as it is surrounded by sixties built houses. Thanks once again to Liam. John Mason advises "There was a Lord Nelson in Chalk but the one in the film was at Kings Ferry, Iwade; just before the old lift bridge. When the new bridge was built the pub disappeared under it." John Butler adds that the pub was on the mainland side of the approach road to the old bascule bridge leading to the Isle of Sheppey and that it was demolished in the late 1950s when the new lifting bridge's approach road was built.

A London station, London Bridge? No . . . Barry Fantoni confirms Marc Maitland's identification and comparison shot as Waterloo station.

Now. Pic from Marc Maitland, well spotted, those three pronged roof supports seem to be good evidence. Waterloo mainline station. The loco in the centre of the shot is a Bullied pacific class loco and this could not have happened at London Bridge. The termini ends at this station were used by trains arriving from the Sussex area, not a route used by this class of locomotive. Alan Mitchell.

Same station. Knight, Frank and Rutley sign, he, young Knight, used to paint soldiers for me when I ran Tradition, the soldier shop in London's Piccadilly. My guv'nor was also called Maitland.

Now from Marc Maitland

Bank Street - Identified by John Love

Now. - John Love spotted this in the original film which we had ignored thinking it just too difficult to identify, but John did it. Exceptionally well done, thanks.

A repeat of 4 & 5

Rather a splendid shot by Russ Clark (SJ)

A repeat of 4 & 5

And again from Russ, both taken on 26/10/18 . (SJ)

The first of some atmospheric b/w nows and thens all grabbed, taken and sent in by Stephen. Not in sequence, but a super collection.

Butler's Wharf river walkway.

As above. A frame or two away from capture 1

Tower Bridge from Shad Thames.

Waterloo Station Clock on concourse.

Cab Road, Waterloo Station Taxi Rank.

Cab Road, Waterloo Station old entrance to station. Now Marks & Spencer.

Cab Road, Waterloo Station old entrance to station. Now Marks & Spencer.

Cab Road, Waterloo Station old entrance to station. Now Marks & Spencer.